Skincare Physicians

Dermatologist, SkinCare Physicians

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  1. Expect to wait even if you have an appointment. Sat in the waiting room for 25 minutes past appointment time. Probably won’t be back since I have a job that I need to get back to.

  2. Drs Kaminer and Sobell are the penultimate combination of true concern for their patients and leading edge professional knowledge. Indeed this defines the entire office.

  3. I came to SCP after a disastrous facial mohs surgery experience that left me with a very visible raised and red scar. After several injections and laser treatments, the difference is profound; I am truly grateful.

  4. I have had a very positive experience with Dr. Karen Kim at SkinCare Physicians. She is very knowledgeable, thorough, thoughtful and attentive. I would highly recommend Dr. Karen Kim.

  5. I saw all the high reviews and called to book a consultation. Unfortunately, after taking all of my information, they informed me that the consultation fee is $150. I asked if that was applied to the procedure cost, they said no. Basically, …

  6. My Experience is HORRIBLE, BECAUSE Someone close to me is Still being given a MEDCIAL Prescription, That has Very Bad side Effects, and I’ve called to let Ms.Dr. Travis Staff know My About WORRIES; And Doc. TRAVIS NEVER even CALLED OR …

  7. We were treated as individuals. Service was prompt and courteous.
    The results of my procedure were more than expected. I will use their services again. Thank you Dr. Dover!

  8. Been there for about 8-9 years. Have had variety of procedures and right now recovering from Mohs on my nose. Looking forward to get stitches out and have swelling go down. Very uncomfortable still but only 3rd day.

  9. I am extremely happy and satisfied with the care provided by Dr. Dover , my condition got significantly improved since I started going to his practice, he is very considerate and takes his time to explain things to his patients, the staff are very professional and compassionate, I highly recommend this practice

  10. I can’t believe some of the whiners here. The service here is very prompt and professional. Please remember that some people visiting the doctors are there to have skin cancer treated. SkinCare Physicians does that to my utmost satisfaction. Some of the posters here sound like they need a combo dermatologist/psychiatrist.

  11. This office is totally profit driven! They are very expensive. They prey on people’s insecurities. I went to see Dr. Dover for spots on my face. Even though he told me they didn’t have any effective method of treatment, he still put me down …

  12. I have been suffering with psoriasis for years. I had tried many different dermatologists and medications. Nothing worked. The psoriasis then began to affect my joints especially in my hands. It hurt me to work. So in a last ditch effort I …

  13. If you suffer from cellulite and want to improve your appearance, I highly recommend Dr. Kaminer. I was recently treated using Cellfina, the only FDA cleared solution for the treatment of cellulite, and in just seven short weeks the changes …

  14. Customer Services is not professional, not well prepared to treat patients and do not know how to communicate. I missed an appointment and I called nobody answer, when I came to my second appointment, they did not want me to come back to …

  15. Terrible experience. I had to put down 150.00 for a laser consult that was canceled at least 4 times. I finally said refund my money and well 6 months later I’m still waiting. I’ve called and left countless messages. Not even a courtesy of …

  16. Pricing system is extremely misleading and outrageous. My small skin-tag removal procedure—in which a nurse sprayed skin tag approximately 1/10 the size of a pea for 30 seconds—totaled to $200. We were initially informed that the cost of …

  17. Dr. Kandula has made my skin look at least 10 years younger. I am 67 years old and being a real estate agent , my face is everywhere. My head shot that I use now looks much better then the one I used many years ago. Dr. Kandula performed an …

  18. Hooray!! For over a decade I have been suffering with ugly yellowish deposits of cholesterol underneath the skin surrounding my eyes known as xanathalsma. Two dermatologists in Naples, Florida suggested I just live with it. Finally, I went …

  19. They are not honest about what you will be charged. I was sent an extra bill from a lab SkinCare Physicians decided to use which was not discussed in the original price. I consider this dishonest, unethical and a poor way to conduct business. You will be charged more than you expect.

  20. Dr. Tania Phillips was amazingly helpful to me in just one visit.
    After having had an open ulcer for over a year and a half on my right ankle, under the treatment of a local doctor, I was referred to the wound specialist, Dr. …

  21. I waited almost an hour before Dr. Sikora saw me and she spent 5 minutes with me and I had to go relieve my baby sitter. They then tried to charge me $150. No one told me about this fee and I assumed Dr. Sikora was like Dr. Phillips billed …

  22. I was referred to Dr. Dover by a respected dermatologist for treatment of Rosacea and Actinic Keratosis, a precancerous skin condition, along the side of my nose and facial area. After 3 sessions which included topical treatments along …

  23. My experience at SkinCare Physicians was less than professional. I was there as a new patient with concerns with different skin-spots. I was new to Boston, Dr. Arnt was recommended, and from his resume, it appeared he had more than enough …

  24. Have had the pleasure of 5 visits to SkinCare Physicians with 2 resulting in successful Mohs surgery performed by Dr Thomas Rohrer along with various staff members. Can not say enough about the genuine interest and concern for your welfare …

  25. I would strongly recommend Dr Karen Kim for any and all skin concerns you might have. I’ve been using her for years for multiple issues that have come up. She is thorough, and focused on YOU, as her patient and most important, she explains …

  26. On the rare occasion that I post a remark on Google Review, it would have been precipitated by either a negative experience or an exceptional one. In the case of Skin Care Physicians, it is a most exceptional one. I have been a patient of …

  27. Saw Dr Dover for a complicated skin issue. He was so understanding and took the time to listen to me, answer all my questions and come up with a plan. Excellent support staff as well. Very happy I chose this practice and will continue on with them in the future.

  28. I have been going to Skin Care Physicians for years. Dr. Jeffrey Dover and Dr. Tania Phillips have been fantastic. A few years ago, I was diagnosed with breast cancer, had surgery and radiation, and healed up. The scars from the surgery …

  29. I worked with Dr. Kaminier to correct the extremely deep scarring On my face caused by a dr from a different practice. Not only is he amazing in that he virtually corrected every last trace of the scarring, Dr. Kaminier’s bedside manner was …

  30. This is one of the worst dermatologist I have ever been to the staff is incompetent and unable to respond to your calls. I have been visiting this office for 3 months now and have wasted hours my time on the phone trying to straighten out …

  31. Went here for a simple cosmetic procedure with the world renowned, Dr. Kenneth A. Arndt. He did an excellent job. Dr. Arndt has a terrific demeanor, attitude and warm personality. His assistant was equally as courteous and professional. The …

  32. Dr Dover and his team have built a practice which blends the personal attention of a first class private practice with the power of a research and training based medical organization. I am a long time patient, many of my family and friends have followed me and I recommend highly.

  33. I was seen By Dr.Kandula at Skincare Physicians and I was extremely happy with her knowledge, compassion and care. Dr. Kandula took her time to listen to me and she answered all my questions.

  34. I would leave one star if I could.
    Doctor barely glanced at my skin for less then minute and told me I had Psoriasis (A AUTO IMMUNE DISEASE WITH SERIOUS PROBLEMS). I trusted this doctors opinion …

  35. I highly recommend Dr. Dover for he has treated both my husband and myself for different skin issues and we have had amazing results. It is always a pleasure to see Dr. Dover and his staff for they are always very attentive professionals and we always leave their office with such a comforting feeling of knowing we look FABULOUS!

  36. I have been going to Dr. Kim at SkinCare Physicians for several years now, and highly recommend both her and this office. She is professional, listens, and genuinely cares about her patients. The staff is always accommodating and efficient.

  37. I’ve been going to Skincare Physicians for about 5 years for all of my dermatology needs as well as cosmentic skincare needs such as botox. I recenlty had a coolsculpting treatment with Sheila that was OUTSTANDING! She was kind, patient, …

  38. Dr. Karen Kim is simply terrific. She takes all the time you need to respond to your questions. She is exceptionally friendly and welcoming and that it removes any anxiety you may be feeling. She is so knowledgable that you have complete …

  39. Dr. Dover is highly recommended. He is extremely educated, keeps up with the latest technology and medical research, and has a terrific demeanor. His recommendations and guidance on various procedures and options have been spot on for me. …

  40. I was referred to Dr.Jeffrey Sobell by my primary care physician when I expressed dissatisfaction with the dermatologist I had been seeing. After one visit Dr.Sobell restored my faith in dermatologists, and now, years later and several …

  41. Dr. Kim at SkinCare Physicians was wonderful. She was very knowledgeable and clearly explained my options and considerations. I was very pleased with the outcome and will continue to go see her. Thank you Dr, Kim.

  42. Referred to Dr. Arndt as a highly respected dermatologist. I was most impressed with his quiet competence, his calm and his ability, rare in this modern medical world, to not feel rushed. …

  43. This is truly a great and comprehensive practice for all dermatology and cosmetic treatments. Great service, caring providers and you really feel like you are getting the state of the art in the field. Highly recommend. …

  44. Dr. Kelly Buchanan at the Chestnut Hill location has been my dermatologist for over a year now. She is extremely knowledgeable and pays special attention to my skin — she put me on medication for my acne (which has been virtually clear …

  45. After my last experience with a dermatologist I was quite hesitant on getting the red spot on my forehead checked out. Expecting a long wait to get an appointment I was quite surprised at how quickly they were able to get me an appointment. …

  46. I have been a patient of Skincare Physicians for over 25 years. Dr. Dover, the other physicians and staff have always demonstrated cutting edge medicine with professional care. I have recommended Dr. Dover and his associates to many friends and each and everyone of them have thanked me.

  47. Had MOHS surgery on July 29th with Dr Rohrer. The experience was the best. I would recommend him to anyone. He was very concerned and covered everything I could expect. After I went home I was experiencing some pain from the donor site. Dr …

  48. Dr. Dover is outstanding. Really knowledgeable and superb bedside manner. Kathleen Brodt is great too. She really helped out our son. The office is beautiful and really well run. A great patient experience.

  49. I was referred by my Dermatologist in Maine to Dr. Dover and Surgeon Dr. Rohrer. I had a large bulbous nose called Rhinophyma. I could touch my lower lip with my nose. I went in March 20, 2017 for the operation. Yes I was nervous, but it …

  50. I highly recommend Sincare Physicians. I have been going to them for the past several years.I particularly recommend Dr.Tania Phillips who is very knowledgeable …

  51. I was treated successfully for a keratosis by Dr. Morton. She was prompt, efficient and very clear in her explanations. The front desk staff was always prepared, follow up visits were easily scheduled and I never waited more than a few …

  52. I have been going to Skincare physicians for about 4 years. In the last year I started seeing Dr Kim (after reading positive reviews and not being pleased with the previous doctor I had been seeing there). I have had adult acne for 8 …

  53. If you have adult acne (or just acne in general,) this is the place to go!! I am 25 and have been struggling with acne for 10 years now. I have seen multiple dermatologists over the years and none of their treatment plans helped. I’ve been …

  54. I recently had my first appointment at Skincare Physicians with Dr. Jeffrey Sobell. I was first struck by the ease of the check-in process and the professionalism of the waiting room staff; all told I was in the waiting room for less than …

  55. Bad experience. $550 for redness laser treatment for a very small area. The whole procedure last like ten second. I have went to other clinic for laser treatment before. They charged $80. The physician seems she is up to something and have …

  56. I’ve been going to SCP since moving to Boston several years ago.

    SCP has exceeded all my expectations as I had underwhelming results from …

  57. I have been a patient of Dr. Dover (primarily) for 15 years. He is a great listener with a great memory, great eye and respect for detail , a very kind and generous man too. I have also seen every other doctor in the practice at one time …

  58. I have been a patient of Dr. Jeffrey Dover’s for almost 30 years. I could not ask for a better doctor. He takes the time to listen to his patients and has thoughtful responses. His kind and gentle nature goes well beyond any doctor I …

  59. I would not trust any other provider with my skin care treatment. I use Dr. Kane for my children and my own dermatological care and I use Dr. Dover for my cosmetic care. Both Doctor’s go above and beyond by providing care and treatment with empathy and professionalism. I would recommend either provider for their extraordinary services.

  60. I’ve been a patient of Dr. Michael Kaminer for many years & have NEVER had a complaint & ALWAYS am thankful for his precision & talent. Kaminer isn’t just a good doctor (technical/medical abilities), but an excellent listener, considerate, …

  61. If you’re looking for the VERY BEST dermatology care in the Boston area, look no farther! I’ve been a patient of Dr. Dover and other clinicians for about 5 years. The expertise they offer is superior. The other medical and office staff …

  62. If I could give less than one star, I would. Awful experience, starting with the reception, who made me feel extremely uncomfortable just because I asked if they had restrooms. The doctor was in a hurry, like she had something more urgent …

  63. I have been seeing Dr. Jeffrey Dover and Skin Care Physicians for over 10 years for a variety of different skin and beauty treatments. He always does what he thinks will enhance my beauty for the longest time and for the least amount of …

  64. I have been coming t see Dr. Karen Kim for almost 3 years now. She is the most caring, thoughtful and wonderful physician that I am privileged to know. She is knowledgeable in her field and I never worry about what procedure she thinks …

  65. Dr. Mitalee Christman met with me yesterday for the first time and it was such a great experience I had to write about it. She was very knowledgeable and explained things to me in a simple manner that was very easy to understand. She made …

  66. I have seen countless dermatologists over the years and none compare to Dr. Dover. His expertise is unparalleled, and he is a genuinely nice person. I’d probably go to him even if he weren’t delightful because he’s *that* good, but it goes …

  67. It has been my experience that Skincare Physicians offers the highest quality of care for both clinical and cosmetic dermatology. I primarily see Dr. Dover and Dr. Travers who are both excellent but have also seen Dr. Kim and Dr. Sobell who …

  68. My wife and I have been patients of Dr. Dovers for over 35 years. Everyone in the practice is very experienced in skin care. We have been treated numerous times for skin issues as well as pre cancer and each time it was diagnosed and …

  69. Dr. Christman truly saved my life. For years on years my acne was horrible, with deep cystic pimples that would never go away. No matter what medication I was put on, nothing worked. Dr. Christman was patient and compassionate with me, and …

  70. My family has been going to Dr. Dover and other physicians at Skincare for over 20 years. There is nobody we trust more with all of our dermatological needs. We are always pleased with the cleanliness, care and attention to detail.

  71. I have been a patient of both Dr Jeffrey Sobell and Dr. Karin Kim. I find after more than a decade that they are both thorough and very attentive to all things skin. I’ve been to other dermatologists at other centers that have rushed me …

  72. Dr. Dover is great. I appreciate his realistic approach to aging and his expertise in all facets of dermatology. His staff treats me like a friend and I recently sent my best friend who also had a gratifying experience. We have both …

  73. Went to SkinCare Physicians a few weeks back for some cosmetic and some medical treatment. Dr Kandula was so professional, sorted out the medical portion of my trip and gave me some cosmetic treatment with phenomenal results. The facility …

  74. I started seeing Dr. Dover a couple of years ago and each of my experiences has been A++. Dr. Dover’s skill and professionalism are absolutely top notch. He is very thorough and listens carefully to my concerns. He explains what he …

  75. I was not happy last time and shared my thoughts about not having enough time during the visit. Today I got a direct phone call from my doctor due to have another appointment with my own doctor which is so great. I edited my previous review. Thank you for your call!

  76. Came in for a consultation for PRP treatment. Was told that the earliest appointment they had was in two months. It was a long time to wait for an appointment but the place the same seemed to have a good reputation, but I was wrong. Upon …

  77. I hesitate using superlatives but with Skin Care physicians and Dr Dover I think it is justified. Great office, highly skilled physicians’, staff combined with personalized treatment makes the patient care and experience very unique. …

  78. I have been seeing Dr Dover and his team for over ten years. They are beyond amazing me. They have seen me for my strange allergies and laser treatments. I couldn’t image a better place to go and get the care I need. The personal treatment you receive here is great

  79. I have been a patient at Skincare Physicians for almost ten years, mostly under the care of Dr. Jeffrey Dover. I live in Maine, a 3.5 hr drive to their office, but I totally think it is worth the drive to have my skin cared for and treated …

  80. I have been seeing Dr. Mitalee Christman for the past 6 months for both medical and cosmetic treatments, and I could not have asked for a better experience. She has not only been professional but also extremely compassionate and showed that …

  81. I cannot say enough about Dr. Mitalee Christman’s expertise. I had seen another one of the physicians for over a decade but last year was assigned a new member of the physician team. I could not be more pleased. Dr. Christman does an …

  82. I have been a client at Skin Care Physicians for the last 12 years and highly recommend them. Dr Kim has been following me for the last few years and always makes me feel totally at ease as she inspects me for anything suspicious. She has …

  83. I am a new patient of Dr. Karen Kim at SkinCare Physicians. I went to Dr. Kim for a consultation for cosmetic treatments regarding facial scarring and general aging of the face. After thoroughly listening and observing my needs Dr. Kim …

  84. My dermatologist recommended I see a physician at SkinCare Phyisicians in Chestnut Hill to explore laser treatment for redness, aging and veins on my face. I was treated by Dr Kim and have had two treatments thus far. The results have …

  85. So lucky to be able to access this practice and Dr. Christman. She is both sincere and so talented- always so happy with my results and very much appreciate her preventative medicine approach for my overall skin health.

  86. Many thanks to Dr Travers for the short notice appointment. The office is consistently accommodating and is such a well oiled machine. Great care with such class. Thanks!!

  87. My wife and I have been patients of Dr. Dover for many years and have found his professionalism and knowledge to be outstanding. He and the entire staff are always courteous and friendly. More than once, issues have arisen that required …

  88. I love everything about Skin Care Physicians! I’ll never look elsewhere for my skin care needs again. I found this place after I’d had a botched botox procedure from another location and Dr. Laurel Morton effortlessly fixed my face. Her …

  89. I have never written an online review before, but Dr. Dover and the team at Skincare Physicians have made such an impact on my life that it feels important to express my gratitude. I’ve seen Dr. Dover on and off for a couple of years now, …

  90. I have been a patient of Dr. Jeffrey Dover for about 15 years. My experience with not only Dr. Dover but his entire staff has been amazing. Starting with his staff, they are friendly ,extremely helpful and accommodating to my changing …

  91. Fifteen years ago, I got very lucky. I found Skincare Physicians via a workmate’s recommendation and met Dr. Jeffrey Dover. Since then, I’ve consulted with him and others at Skincare Physicians about multiple skin concerns. The facility in …

  92. I saw Dr. Christman 4 weeks ago for Fraxel and had the best experience! She’s so knowledgeable and I wouldn’t trust my skin with anyone else. She was very available to answer my questions after the procedure and now my skin looks better than it has in years. Thank you, Dr. Christman!!

  93. Thank you Dr. Karen Kim for all your time and patience over the last year. I appreciate you for listening to my concerns and never rushing me out of your exam room. I highly recommend Dr. Kim!

  94. Dr Sobell is the greatest. I’ve been going to him for 15 years. I moved to Florida but still go back to Boston just to make appointments with him. He is at the height of his profession.

  95. I have been a patient of Dr Dover’s for over 20 years. He has addressed all my skin issues with care and I am very pleased with my results. He seems genuinely interested in you as a person and listens to your concerns about your skin …

  96. I came to see Dr. Christman after an accident left a disfiguring scar on my face. She is, hands down, the most empathetic, kind physician I have ever been to. She made me immediately feel comfortable, took the time to hear what my concerns …

  97. Pretty disappointed with the experience outside of my actual skin exam. On a positive note, the physician assistant that I met with seemed confident and thorough, so that is good. But trying to get them on the phone was impossible, and the …

  98. I have amazing experience today with dr. Dover and dr. Hopper they are such nice, warm, and expert in their field, I am highly recommended them, today I met the care and education!

  99. I’ve been a patient at SkinCare Physicians for many years, mainly being treated by Dr. Jeffrey Sobell. If you are lucky enough to been seen by Dr. Sobell, you are in fantastic hands, from his friendly and caring demeanor to his knowledge …

  100. We are very grateful for the excellent and professional care we receive from Dr.Karen Kim. She is a thoughtful and thorough and patient in explaining any and all procedures and in answering any questions we have.We highly recommend her.

  101. I have been receiving Ilumya injections for psoriasis for the past few years from Dr. Sobell. He is excellent, the staff is very nice as well as professional and the results of the Ilumya is nothing less than life changing!

  102. I’ve been going to Dr. Kaminer for several years and he is outstanding – an expert in his craft! Best in the business for aesthetics like Botox, and perhaps surprisingly, a great all around doctor. A few months ago I mentioned to him in …

  103. Went here twice for a skin rash. At the first appointment I saw Dr Sobell, and he was very patient and knowledgeable. Second appointment I saw Dr Kim and she was awful! When she walked in the exam room I told her I had a few questions and …

  104. My experience at SkinCare Physicians was outstanding. Both Dr. Kaminer and Dr. Rohrer are attentive, knowledgeable, and extremely caring. The entire staff is friendly and professional. Upon leaving, I felt very confident that my skin care needs had been met and that I was well taken care of.

  105. Dr. Dover and his remarkable staff have taken amazing care of me over many years! I look forward to my appointments, knowing that I will be warmly welcomed, treated as though I were their only patient that day! In a bustling practice, …

  106. I have been cared for by Dr. Dover and his wonderful staff for over 15 years. Dr. Dover is warm and kind, as well as an expert in his field. He really cares about his patients and he has helped me greatly with a difficult skin condition. I know that I am in great hands at Skincare Physicians. I highly recommend this practice.

  107. What a wonderful experience! Dr.Jeffrey Sobell and his nursing staff were so incredibly warm and nice, I highly recommend him!
    I have had a very large fear of returning to see a dermatologist after a …

  108. When our family dermatologist retired we thought we would never find another. However, after the first visit with Dr. Dover at SkinCare Physicians, I knew that we were fortunate to have found him From the time I made the first appointment …

  109. the Doctor Kim is a gold digger.
    I drove the car from New York to Boston twice for my girlfriend to her office. Each time Spent over 700 dollars and other fees over 600 dollars rental car and …

  110. Had a great experience with Colleen, but the front desk staff was very unprofessional. Yawning and talking very loud where other people could hear what names were being called or needed to talk louder to check out. But again best doctors but front staff needs work.

  111. Today I called to make an appointment, and I said I was going to use my insurance, and the guy who made the appointment was very disappointed and told me that the available date was in October, and I said, can patients know two months in …

  112. It’s fun being insulted and sold to by your dermatologist. “I have an older client next door with better skin than you”. Great. Thanks. Insulting patients isn’t the best way to upsell some expensive laser treatment on the same day. …

  113. I have been a patient of Dr. Michael Kaminer for over three years after trying three other Cosmetic practices. I mostly saw all nurse practitioners. There is absolutely no comparison to Dr. K and his professionalism, knowledge and …

  114. I have been seeing Dr. Karen Kim for over a year. She is an outstanding dermatologist who provides personalized, detailed, and high quality care with compassion and kindness. I would highly recommend her to friends and family members.

  115. Dr. Kaminar and the staff at Skin Care Physicians are wonderful. They have been treating my acne scarring for several years now and my experience is always outstanding. Dr. Kaminar sets realistic expectations and his work is subtle, …

  116. I’m very pleased with my care from Dr Karen Kim. Have seen Dr Kim for routine screenings as well as some cosmetic procedures. She has a warm and caring manner and provides clear explanations of treatment and treatment options. I highly recommend Dr Kim and Skin Care Physicians.

  117. Dr. Kim has been my dermatologist for 14 years. She is an outstanding doctor who has diagnosed some substantive skin problems and performed Mohs and other surgeries which left little or no scars. …

  118. Just had another amazing facial with Joyce! After every appointment, in addition to feeling calm and relaxed – my face is always fresh, clean, moisturized and well, pampered! She is kind, patient, skilled and has “the touch” – I am so very grateful that I found her!!!

  119. Everyone from the receptionists to the nurses to the physicians are truly wonderful. The physicians I have work together to ensure the health of my skin. If you need any type of skin care, these physicians are the best and I would not hesitate a minute in recommending their services. Many thanks for all you do!

  120. Doctor Dover has been my doctor consistently for nearly 20 years. He has treated me for my port wine stain, acne, and more. He is kind, patient, and thorough. I have full trust in Doctor Dover. He is the best doctor I have ever had and I would give him the highest recommendation to others. 🙂

  121. I have been a patient of Dr Karen Kim for over a decade. I sought out a skilled plastic surgeon to remove Basel Cell Carcinoma from an area that was located beside my nose. Dr Kim performed the surgery with such precision, not a trace of …

  122. I have been a patient of Dr. Karen Kim for many years and and have always felt I have received the best medical care possible for my skin cancer issues. She is a caring professional who puts the patients health as her top priority. I highly …

  123. My experience at my appointment today with Dr Travers was outstanding , as it always is.
    Dr Travers is always upbeat, no matter what time of day my appointment is. …

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